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Poster: jcjoe Date: Apr 21, 2006 3:47am
Forum: general Subject: site archive found - but then lost

Abut two weeks ago, I found an archive in the waybackmachine for a web site that used to be at the domain "winterbottomsantiques.com." The domain registration had expired and the web site abandoned two or three years ago when its owner became ill.

The original owner has now recovered her health. After finding your archived version, we took copies of a few graphics, re-regsitered the same domain and I am now creating a new web site for the owner.

But mysteriously, in the past few days, when returning to the archive to look at something that was on the old site, it no longer appears in the archive.

Can someone tell me why that happened - and is there still some way to see the archive?

TIA

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Poster: GirdwoodTelevision Date: Apr 21, 2006 4:45am
Forum: general Subject: Re: site archive found - but then lost

Hi,

Try this:
http://web.archive.org/web/*/winterbottomsantiques.com/*

Alexis

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Poster: jcjoe Date: Apr 21, 2006 4:50am
Forum: general Subject: Re: site archive found - but then lost

Thanks for the suggestion but that still returns a "not found" message?

Are you saying you can see it at that link?

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Poster: GirdwoodTelevision Date: Apr 21, 2006 5:02am
Forum: general Subject: Re: site archive found - but then lost

Very odd. Sometimes I can, and sometimes I can't. I had to hit that link about 5 times before the results showed up, but they are there (I attached a picture). Then, when I go to look at the pages (all jpgs so far), I often get a not found. I tried refreshing a few of those repeatedly and they mostly did show up - eventually. I'm not sure what's going on, but F5 is definitely going to come in handy for you (F5 forces the page to refresh). Good luck.

Alexis

Attachment: ARossi-waybackresults.JPG

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Poster: GirdwoodTelevision Date: Apr 21, 2006 5:05am
Forum: general Subject: Re: site archive found - but then lost

And, oddly, now I can see the original listing as well:
http://web.archive.org/web/*/winterbottomsantiques.com

But again, I'm guessing you're going to need to hit F5 a few times to see it.

Alexis

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Poster: jcjoe Date: Apr 21, 2006 5:28am
Forum: general Subject: Re: site archive found - but then lost

I think we have entered the Rod Serling Zone. I switched to another computer. From the Archive.Org search page I launched a new search.

The results page showed the expected list of dates in the archive. Very promising.

But when I clicked on one of those dates, I got the NEW web site, not the archive. Same regardless of which date I chose. Cue the theme music.

Is it from there that you did the F5? I've tried it 10 times and also tried a CTRL-F5 - but even though my status bar claims it is loading the Archive page, and the URL field shows it is a web.archive.org/web/ etc. page, it displays the new live page.

How can this be?

And then, the next F5 got me the Archive.Org page saying, "Not in Archive."

Is there anyone monitoring these forums who has access to Archive's Tech Support to figure out what is happening? Or more important, to figure out how to see the archived pages?

Thanks again for your help

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Poster: GirdwoodTelevision Date: Apr 21, 2006 5:56am
Forum: general Subject: Re: site archive found - but then lost

I actually work here at the archive, although not in the Wayback group. I've already sent an email to one of the Wayback engineers, so hopefully they'll be able to figure out what's going on.

Alexis

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Poster: jcjoe Date: Apr 21, 2006 6:27am
Forum: general Subject: Re: site archive found - but then lost

Alexis,

Thanks for your help. I have been trying everything I can, inluding parsing the URL and switching browsers, dumping cache, etc., to get it to display the old site but nothing works.

FWITW, I am in New York, my client is in Los Angeles - and neither of us can see the old site.

So it clearly is not machine or browser or ISP related.

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Poster: jcjoe Date: Apr 21, 2006 8:53am
Forum: general Subject: Re: site archive found - but then lost

Well, Alexis, you have a magic wand. The archived site is now accessible again.

Thank you for your help!

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